The MLM Syndrome: Dr. Doe's Investigation into MLM CONditioning, MLM and The Ace Initiative Pt. That's because they are people who might be able to reason and convince their loved ones that the cult leaders are only interested in using them for their money.Good luck with that. They have you indoctrinated to think that everything you read on the internet is simply the opinions of simple minded slack jawed uneducated liberals who only want to live off of their government welfare program. Sometimes the greatest achievements have the most humble beginnings. I'm going to bring your comments up in a future post because this is kind of old and readers might miss it. So if you go by Amway ambot logic if Im broke then so are Amway Diamonds. Vicky - are you trying to tell us your ex-lover is a lying cheating scamming Amway Diamond and you want that fucker back? How am I gonna convince my friend that Amway is evil? I doubt it. You said it Anonymous! The dumb fuck ambots don't like the answer they get from the assholes in their Amway upline or the small print on Amway literature and don't like my answer either that Amway Diamonds are broke so they leave a comment bitching about stupid things.When the real stupid thing is staring them back in a mirror. we call it "the prosperity Gospel" and that is apart from an insult to Christ, an outright misrepresentation . Furthermore, in 2009 Amway held celebrations of their 50th Anniversary and invited all qualified Diamonds and above to Las Vegas. A good example is Larry Winters, a former car wash manager from North Carolina who has climbed his way to "Diamond" status in the Britt system. And they taste better. You are worth it, and your family is worth it! Tobbi - you are probably right. Live from an Amway meeting! They defend Amway as being a multi-billion dollar company, not taking into account that they got that rich off the backs of their poorly commissioned sales people self-consuming the horribly over-priced products and going out and recruiting others to do the same. Then they get punished and told never question upline. Personally, however (regardless of what I think of the Amway Corporation or the "tool scam") I have great admiration for anyone who manages to build a successful Amway business because the work they have to do is my idea of absolute hell. JUST DO IT. a strategy ? I'm sure our upline Diamond has a huge hole in his income these past few months after Amway fired our sack of shit Platinum. It helps others know they're not going through the Amway hell hole alone. An Amway Diamond according to Amways literature is in the ballpark as our income. Do your research amigosForbes.com #25 on the top 100 listNet-work marketing is a legitimate businessSears, best buy, Apple, Barnes and Nobles, Office Depot, Disney, and a total of 80 others are all partners with this so call scamwayIf Amway is a scam then call the feds because this is the longest scam in the history of the U.S54 years to be exactI suggest you read books on the industry (Network Marketing) which has 52 billion dollars in revenue each yearRobert Kiyosaki wrote a book "The business for the 21st Century" also "School of Business"Other books to get information on the industry "The New Professionals"Donald Trump and Warren Buffet both have NETWORK MARKETING COMPANIES and they have BILLIONS of reasons as to why I stop and listen to them. Do you feel judging people and saying they will be in hell is appropriate? Hey Anonymous - you're not a dude you're a prude. Not bad money, but the sales organizations sell a mammoth sized lie. Do you believe in yourself? Yes, it's the same fucking plan, that Bob, Steve, Al, and Jim have done the last several nights in a row. Following are the approximate percentages of U.S. registered IBOs who achieved the illustrated results in the calendar year 2021: Diamond Club 0.0271%; Diamond Select 0.0123%; By selecting cancel, the new IBO must complete the rest of the registration process, including payment. Racist/bigoted comments? Peanuts in the greater scheme of things but I guess they all start to add up after awhile into income losses for the kingpins. Hi Anonymous. So please give us some hints like describe yourself or something. Really interesting blog. You're hanging out at this blog instead of worshipping and loving them and sucking their dicks off. See Amway.com/income-disclosure for details. If you know of a Diamond or past Diamond not listed, please . When we build teams it's with people that want to grow and make a difference in there own and others' lives. As you've figured out its just a big game of make belief. So i just dont see why anyone would bother. the 12 billion annual revenue that is toted around by distributors is the total revenue for Alticor (parent company of Amway). Or tickets to hear a cult leader speak. i m an mba student in common with study i also building amway business in part time, nd i have achieve 21% level. One or two and maybe it is a fluke. Thats 30 k. Each. Note that I said chose. Kyle - Amway ambots judge everybody who is not in Amway so this is our little spot on the web where we can just people in Amway. That's why this blog exists to talk about what you evil motherfucking Amway demons are really like. Yeah that'll get me somewhere. One reasn why the products are so expensive, is because there was a confrontation between the Devos/van Andels and the bigwig distributirs making money off the tools, and the latter threatened to leave and take their organizations with them, so the company had to accept that, and they had to raise their prices to offset it. If you qualify for Diamond Select, you will be treated to an extended trip with exclusive activities and VIP pampering, plus more time to connect, collaborate and relax with fellow business leaders. I say "prohibitively" because even getting ONE recruit is difficult. Hence this blog doesn't take long to read guess not many commenting parties. I think the 150 k is a gross figure. He claimed he's not valid to disclose the information, he however gave me the name of his "mentor" and a bottle of perfect water. Amway folks really don't sell all that much product. Please check your. You will not be able to return to the payment option. July 29, 2008. Do I look like a mechanic? Folding your cards does not entail 'losing' or 'quitting'. Nothing wrong with network marketing.Most of those companies you listed, Barnes, Sears, and Best Buy are struggling right now and shutting down stores, they will take any hook they can get for extra cheap referrals to their business.It is not the partner sites that make Amway bad, its their IBO' actions IMO. Also, please don't bother to reply without all their Schedule C's attached, O.K. How can you say 150 k is a nice income. (The list on Amway Wiki is very incomplete, David.) We don't just ride on hope. Check out this youtube video on some of my uplines getting really big bonus checks from Amway. Kiyosaki was homeless for a while fighting for a dream. We are worth 200% more than we think we are! I even recall when diamond bitch brought her closet full of fur coats so we lowly people could try them on. Get suckered into a Scamway meeting, pull out your phone and surf right over here. Dang, sounds like a sure thing to me.Cassette Tape. Its not about money Anna, its about having the freedom to choose your own hours and not answering to anyone. Hi Anonymous - so you're saying that the literature that Amways head office sends out about expected compensation for a Diamond being around 150k is a lie? Any one with and decency would look at this and see that these people commenting are either made up or are really not good people. In Amway their teachings are all about what they consider to be traditional families and relationships so you'll freak them out by saying you're investing in gay porno flicks. Yup the garage makes me suspicious he lives with mommy and daddy and they don't want his Amway shit in their house. And shouldn't she be about quitting now due to no Amway income? A person can live a decent lifestyle on this income if you watch how you spend it. You do get rewarded. Astonishingly, he makes $300k on a bad year and $460k on a good year. I'm glad the people who work for us don't have that attitude. What if staying where I am WILL fulfill my dreams? Everyone else is making something out of it. The list on AmwayWiki is dynamically generated by articles on AmwayWiki, so if you know of more simply create a new article for the Diamond, with category Diamond, and theyll appear in the list. Can you give me some info about the way you work your business ? However, most people in the organizations do NOT bother with the 10n retail customer rule. He doesn't know how to say Amway Tool Scam!And didn't afros for white guys go out of style sometime during the 80's! I was in Amway back in 96 to 99. We might publish that comment to make fun of you. Tell us which McD's and we'll be sure to come over and say hi. ft. $725,000. Hi Tim. Earnings depend on many factors, including: customer base, business experience, effort, dedication, and quality and performance of an IBOs sales team. Your post highlights the problems with doing maths based on poor knowledge or false assumptions. These days Amway Ambots easily spend a grand a month on this scam. Lets keep it safe for everyone. I grew to resent everything Amway, because my parent's life became consumed with it. Why? I mean, they all have overpriced food, when you could make a cheaper healthier meal at home right? Great friend.yes u can make it happen also.great work.great idea.great dream.great lifestyle.see u on top.n peace. Keeps Ambots away! I just started with a new MLM, I've been skeptical of MLMs for years after this. This all adds up. We just want to help people not go through the hell we went through. Amway Wiki is one of the most popular Amway related websites on the internet, with nearly 20,000 visitors a month and an awful lot of that traffic comes from people searching for the names of individual Diamonds folk are looking for information, lets help them get the facts! Guess you don't listen to fucking good to the assholes in your Amway upline who tell you not to visit negative web pages like this one and never speak negative. In the late 1980s I frequently attended Amway rallies to help out a friend (bringing potential recruits to these rallies made my friend look good to his upstream). Most ambots start to think about quitting in 6 months when they're not making money. 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We have been "in the business" now for some 18 yrs, and have been @ the Direct/Platinum or above level for 17 of those yrs. And it takes 10 years to qualify. I have yet to see a passage in the Bible which talks about how Jesus wants to bless you with material possessions beyond your wildest dreams if only you have enough faith. Their solution? LOLstop seeing amway as this bullshit scam promising to make you rich. Do they get commission every time they get a new person to join? Ha ha!!!! Feel free to join in or live vicariously! If you have capital to build a business then do so help the economy and build something of your own. He just found me on Facebook a few months ago, he quit Amway about a year later, never did make any money at it. In the news a couple of weeks ago it was saying that children who are brought up in religious households or maybe it was Christian households I don't remember which one are greedier than children brought up in unreligious households. I keep getting fucking Amway assholes showing up here and leaving comments that Im broke even though Im very careful with my money. Thank you for stopping by and setting us straight. Ah well, at least, she has proper spelling. Anonymous - I'm sorry to hear you're falling for a women inside the Amway cult. How about they keep them cause it's going to cost more in time and gas money than what those brainwashing tools are worth! Like you said big red flags.Look further up on the right side of this page under Amway related links. That is funny, what an oxymoron, Amway Diamond with an open mind. Look at the small print where it shows how much Amway Diamonds make each year. No skin off my ass if you choose to believe a bunch of scamming lying Amway assholes or believe those who've lost money thanks to this scam. Of course not because people in Amway don't believe anything unless someone else in Amway says it whether or not it's true, Amway ambots parrot the Amspeak from these assholes.I've done enough research minimal as it may be that I have a good idea what will happen to a person if they jump onto the subway lines that I don't have to experience it firsthand and can draw on someone else's experience that they got themself electrocuted to death. Hi Anonymous. And when I say tiny, I mean spending hundreds in the Amway "dream" and getting small $10 checks back from Amway. More importantly, those mistakes don't define you. (@)(@)(@)(@) zooom zoom zoom!!!! The idea was to reach a level where the scam would provide such a high salary that you don't need anything else and can have all the time in the world with massive money pouring in. Yup that pretty much sums up Amway ambots! You do realize that Amway's head office reads this blog. Amway is vastly different.. Diamond do make 150K a year FROM AMWAY. Your right, diamond don't requalify, but their bonus checks still come in ever month and year and their income actually grows because the real money in made in the depth of your business, not by how many legs you have. It could be possible that Theo had just purchased the share in a weeks before his post (after the 1:7 split that occurred on June 9th, 2014) which would have set him back about $93,000. Yeah he mentioned dreams multiple times and asked me about what mine is and said his team can help me achieve that, unbelievable. Avon closing in Australia and New Zealand, 15 consecutive months of growth for Amway North America. 90% of restaurants fail, and people lose hundreds of thousands of dollars, wiping them out financially. IBOs must be in compliance at all times with the Amway IBO Compensation Plan, Quality Assurance Standards and the IBO Rules of Conduct to keep their invitation to Amway incentive trips. Anonymous - seeing as how this blog is devoted mostly to making the Amway upline look like a bunch of fucking assholes, your opinion might differ. In fact, 99% of Amway . So, I jumped on the internet on my smart phone and did some research. LOL! Thats something i'll never be able to say. Is it the weekend? Talk about having free time on your hands! But sadly this is the story of 99% of the IBOs. The assholes in the Amway upline will start screeching about never question upline and give you some bullshit that what's printed there is only "guidelines" and the real money runs in the gazillions of dollars rolling in each month. Shouldn't the FTC know that they are LYING about the income of this opportunity? Looks good on paper but putting the Amway bored plan into action is another story because its real hard to find one person to sign up for Scamway let alone 2 or 6 or 100. After all, less than 1 percent of Amway distributors go Diamond. Thank you for this blog. Yesterday is waste paper, today is news paper, tomorrow is question paper and Amway is the answer paper. I leave the explanations of why Amway is a poor business opportunity or the tool scam to other bloggers. You have no time to waste!!!~Osuwariboy. The cast of Uchu Sentai Kyuranger made their first public appearance at this year's LIVE&SHOW anniversary concert celebrating Kamen Rider and Super Sentai. In India how much students R Doctors? And if the first one doesn't work then there's always another one to try. They couldnt stop, of course. WWDB has a ton of motivational resources that can help get you to the next level of your MLM business. He defected to Monavie and took a lot of his downline with him. I hissed at her because I belonged to Greenpeace (got my membership in 3rd grade) and the thought of the whole fur coat thing grossed me out, let alone, all these pathetic women clamoring to touch them. 2012. i am hiting 6% level.very fast i want to go diamond . Well Amway is a pretend business so those ambots can pretend whatever title they want to be. Unless they can sell the already ENORMOUSLY overpriced products for any kind of profit to a large customer base (something few Ambots can get working for them as other than pity purchases, the rest of the population can find better products at their local stores for wayyy better prices and convenience), then the only other thing is to self-consume and then try to recruit others to self consume and find others, etc. You may e-mail the information directly to ibofightback. You don't have to pay some fucking asshole in your Amway upline $100+ a month for that shit. The beachfront island resort offers vast ocean views and lively pools and lagoons in a setting for unforgettable adventure. The latest bullshit Amway Amspeak propaganda.Yup one of the biggest lies Amway Ambots spout is how everything is awesome. Yeah right. It is a unique business. Thats a no brainer. . i fell proud my diamond upline is anurag and nidhi agarwal. At least Anna is working to persuade others NOT to embark on that journey to hell. Inclusion on Amway Wiki does not mean they are requalifying at that level or even if they are still Amway Business Owners. Both of you have been brainwashed to spout off the bullshit you hear from your Amway cult leaders. In a strange way the woman speaker is so wacko Amway no brain that I keep listening in disgust. could you explain more about amway. This example, like most, contains a lot of assumptions and can only be used to provide an overall estimate of income. My Wife Mrs Laxmi Singh & I myself building this awesome unique opportunity with the help of our great LOS and world best proven system. I don't know what made you guys so bitter, But it really seems like you have no idea what you're talking about. Add to that the demand that IBOs buy all the damn "tools," and those bigshots made a fortune.They told De Vos and Van Andel to go to hell. However you Amway "Christians" worship the Great Amway God and worship greed and material things so you're really fucked up in your twisted religious beliefs.This blog is all about transposing how people in Amway treat the rest of the world and sling it back at them. If you continue to see this error, please contact Customer Service 800-253-6500. They're losers who are going to be dead or broke by the time they're 65. "Just like yourself I got started about a decade ago and I graduated top of my class and got multiple job offers. PLEASE EXPLAIN ME THE ROYALTY INCOME OF 4% AND 10%, AND HOW IT COMES AND WILLABLE TO FUTURE FAMILY, PLZ ANY ONE WHO IS GETTING THIS EXPLAIN OR MAIL ME IT IN DETAIL. I look back and think my mom was a genius for resisting Amway the way she didshe never gave in!! Anna because of your stupid BLOG people came to know who you are. Thanks for leaving a comment and bumping my rating up higher on Google! Who is now amway diamon and who is babesor. The glimmer of hope still exists. Yup Amway Ambots talk out of both sides of their mouths and their assholes. Wonder how the wwdb cult leaders explain how they took 5+ yrs to get a new diamond. That they're not alone in the way they're feeling because Amway destroyed their family. Closer to $5 is more like it but you can't buy them just by the bar. Amway is amazing business with quality life and quality money. I knew a lot of ambots who were still living at home with mommy and daddy and bragging about how much money they were making in Scamway. Talk it over with this person. They joined Amway in 1973 and went Diamond in 1979. I have a friend that's with Amway. Until the motivational tool scam is dealt with, Amway will not live up to its promise. Me again. Amway Christians. Now there's a topic for the day. Lies, double-speak, "fake it til you make it", tricks and bullshit to reel someone in and get them plugged into the "motivational" (brainwashing) system to make them "dream" instead of THINK and do the math. I can see how that would cost extra but is it viable in the market place. The business isn't perfect because people aren't perfect. *As ranked by 2019 Direct Selling News Global 100, published in the June 2019 edition of Direct Selling News, based on 2018 revenues. And this is after quite a lot of truly hard work. Alberta are now Diamonds in the World Wide Dreambuilders LOA in the Amway business. But I researched this one a lot, and it seems very solid. . $66,000,000,000 for 4,000 diamonds? Sometimes I've written a post and then off it goes into the twilight zone. So even you had to resort to AMWAY for publicity of your cheap BLOG. I expose the lies that our upline told and what happens at Amway meetings and functions. The Amway marketing plan is very flexible. This is a great waste of everybody's time. but did you act upon them? The Financial Jonestown: My experience with the Amway Motivational Organization (AMO) URAssociation. An error has occurred, which probably means the feed is down. Sounds like a stronger selling point.Or is it less? Jumping in kind of late here, but I am a recovering Ambot. Some of the Amway cult leaders are invested in this company.I forgot to warn they'll ask about your dreams. Thanks for stopping by with your story. The business is an opportunity, not a hand out. If you are teamed up with the wrong people then you of course there is the chance of failure- say what you want. Gross or net and with or without a few cash events Diamonds can't afford to live millionaire lifestyles on that income. I am showing the people that are actually wondering if half the stuff you say is true or not some evidence of who we actuall work with. The things I learned from Amway I have always used in my everyday life. I get from the blog description that you are married to an Amway IBO,the question is are you still married to him despite the fact you hate what he is doing that much , I read your blogs and i cant seem to understand why are you hating that Amway cooperation that much , did they like rip you off and didn't give you what you paid for or was your husband so busy in it and did not give you much time , please elaborate more . Either way Darnell showed up here spouting off lies and bullshit, undoubtedly duplicating what he's heard from the fucking lying assholes in his Amway upline. Amway and Scientology, Apart From the Labels, What's the Difference? They recognize winning card percentages, cost to play, table volatility, sunk loss, emotions, tendencies of other players, and play their cards accordingly, separating themselves from pride and ego. Amway is constantly associated with being a pyramid scheme, a cult, and selling overpriced shitty products. 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