The .35SL proved popular at first with the general public as a short-range deer and black bear hunting cartridge, but was soon superseded by the introduction of the more powerful .351SL in the Winchester '07. Another outstanding feature is that the cartridge will smoothly feed through the 336 action whereas the 45/70 cartridge can be very difficult. The .358 has 24 percent more energy at the muzzle than the .300 Win. But theres a reason the .30-30 has been around for the last 126 years. The .351 Winchester Self-Loading (also called .351 SL or .351 WSL) is an American rifle cartridge designed in 1906. We have V-MAX, Polymer Tip and Soft Point bullets for Hunting, Varmint and Small Game Hunting. Both conceived in the early 20th century, the .270 Winchester and the .30-06 Springfield are ballistically similar, easy to find, and chambered in a wide variety of rifles. Remington loads a 200-grain PSP Core-Lokt bullet at a muzzle velocity of 2775 f.p.s. The 2019 SHOT Show saw the release of the latest cartridge from Winchester: the 350 Legend. If youd rather listen than read, click the appropriate link below to listen to this episode on your preferred podcasting service. That load actually produced 2825 f.p.s. Both generate between 1,800 and 1,900 ft.-lbs. The most common load is a 200gr round nose soft point traveling between 2,000 and 2,100 feet per second. Everybody agrees that the .358 Win. It is true that the cartridge has its limitations, but used under the right circumstances, itis an outstanding choice. Among the .35 caliber cartridges popular in the United States, the .358 offered a definite step up in performance; the .35 Remingtonthat popular woods rifleis much slower than the .358, and though the .35 Whelen has been among us since 1922, it would remain a wildcat until 1988. Outside that area, I feel that the sheer number of rifles chambered for the .35 Remington will assure a steady supply of good ammunition, fulfilling the role the .35 was designed for. is still with us as well. has "far better knockddown power than the .30-30 under any conditions and at any range." From the Green Goblin (a bolt-action rifle I built on a Remington action), both will produce groups that are sub-minute-of-angle. Usually, Id give the nod here to the .35 Rem., and theres no question it hits harder. Why the public abandoned it so quickly is a mystery to me. Copyright 2023 Big Game Hunting Adventures LLC | All Rights Reserved. The barrel is a full 22 inches, like it always should have been, but the foolish design with the huge shark fin front sight turned hunters off, and it was dropped. He was born in 1921 and later served as a navy corpsman in Japan and Korea. Mag. .30-06 Springfield vs. .270 Winchester6.5 Creedmoor vs. 7mm-08 Remington8x57 Mauser vs. .318 Westley Richards.358 Winchester vs. .350 Remington Magnum.22-250 Remington vs. .220 Swift.270 Winchester vs. .270 WSM.26 Nosler vs. 6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum.458 Win. would follow that tradition. Mag. Richard Mann was born and raised in West Virginia and has hunted from the Montana mountains to the green hills of Africa. If I were a Midwest hunter, Id dive on top of the 350 Legend, as it gives what I consider to be the most bang for the buck. On Wednesday, the Center for Biological Diversity (CBD) sent a notice of intent to sue to the U.S. Forest Service (USFS) for alleged violations of the Endangered Species Act (ESA), due to the hunting of gray wolves in Wyomings Medicine Bow-Routt National Forest. Using the same case head diameter of the .223 Remington at a length of 1.71-inch, the 350 Legend uses a .357-inch diameter bullet, for a combination that is very easy on the shoulder while being effective downrange. This is our first clean sweep in the Caliber Battle series. into the deer woods, and I pine for what could have been. and a .30-06 produces about 20 ft.-lbs. $735 + $40 SHIPPING to your FFL DEALER.This gun is chambered in the WINCHESTER 35 CAL. Nosler offers the .350 Rem. with bullets between 200 grains and 220 grains. Winchester introduced the .351 WSL in 1907 for their Model in its NoslerCustom line with a 225-grain Partition bullet at 2550 f.p.s. all were more powerful-and may have been excellent hunting cartridges-but they are gone; rejected by the shooting public and banished to the junk heap of obsolescence. Its a decent cartridge, but American hunters just wont flock to it. Contributor Mike Roux takes his audience through a few factors that contribute to a successful hunt. It is believed that Frank Hammer fired the opening burst into Bonnie & Clydes 1934 Ford with a Model 8 in .35. This could be the most frequently debated rifle cartridge matchup on the planet. Shootability vs. .35 Rem. Still, much like the old man who can rattle your teeth with a punch, appearances can be deceiving. The .350 Rem. Read on for his take on this Thai-inspired fusion dish. stated to be 1850 fps and the muzzle energy 1370 ft. lbs. Originally loaded with a 160-grain bullet, today 150- and 170-grain loads are the most popular, but ammunition loaded with bullets as light as 125 grains and as heavy as 190 grains is available. The .35 Winchester (colloquially .35 Win) cartridge was created in 1903 by the Winchester Repeating Arms Company for use in the Winchester Model 1895 lever-action rifle, and was also available in the bolt action Remington-Lee, [1] or the Model E-10 Factory Sporter Ross Rifle in Canada. Remington introduced the Remington Auto-Loading Rifle (later known as the Remington Model 8) in 1906. Versatility I have one, of course, and it is fun to shoot, but I would never use it on a serious big-game hunt. The company has chambered several rifles in the cartridge including models in bolt-action, pump-action and semi-automatic. The maximum load for For this reason, the .35 Remington is most popular in the northeast and southeast regions of the United States where shooting ranges are short. Federal, for example, offers 12 varieties of the .30-30, including loads in their excellent Trophy Copper and HammerDown series. Mag. Id be hunting deer with my father the following season, and that alone was a dream come true. These bullets weigh 171 grains with a .348 caliber gas The .351 Winchester Self-Loading (.351 WSL, .351 SL). For instance, Remington also sells 150gr load that produces velocities around 2,300 feet per second. The Winchester cartridge has an overall length of 2.71 and uses a case 2.045 long. the higher pressure and back thrust of more powerful cartridges, so the .351 Self-Loading cartridge was designed for the existing I can certainly see the Midwest deer hunters making a switch to the 350 Legend over any of the .40 to .45 caliber cartridges, as the 350 Legend offers the Goldilocks just right formula: a good balance of striking power and ease of shooting. in 1957 and .351 ammunition was offered for several years after that. The Big Game Hunting Blog is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com, Amazon.co.uk, Amazon.ca, Amazon.com.au, and other Amazon stores worldwide. The .351 Winchester Self-Loading (also called .351 SL or .351 WSL) is an American rifle cartridge designed in 1906. They truly were ahead of their time, as they were short magnums back when being a short magnum wasnt cool. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, Remington Model 700 American Hunter Rifle Project, .358 Winchester vs. .350 Remington Magnum, .25-06 Remington vs. .257 Weatherby Magnum, Head to Head: .30-30 Winchester vs. .35 Remington, Head to Head: .338-06 A-Square vs. .35 Whelen, Head to Head: .458 Win. The muzzle velocity was is on the threatened list, this one is on a path to extinction. Im old enough to remember when the lever guns were still highly popular among deer hunters, and my own rifle, as shiny and unproven as it was in comparison to the older gents worn pieces with bluing rubbed off and stock finish dulled by the elements, was a source of pride. Because of its ability to retain velocity, the 160-grain LEVERevolution .30/30 load is also the hardest hitting for that cartridge; at 100 yards it is carrying 1643 foot-pounds of energy. Personally, at the ranges that these cartridges are used, I could easily call it a draw. It was predictable that the .356 Win. Released in 2019, the Legend was designed for use in states that restrict deer hunters to straight-wall cartridges and was billed as the fastest such cartridge currently in production. The elder statesman of the deer woods, the .30-30 Win. Be sure to hit that Subscribe button in your podcast player! I feel the cartridges offer very similar performance, at similar ranges. FMJ bullet at 1,870 f.p.s. The .351 WSL is based on a semi-rimmed, straight-sided case 1.380" long that uses small rifle primers. .30-30 Win. But bringing down game isnt just about heavy, fast-flying bullets. Winchester model 1907 in .351 winchester. The benefits of .350 Legend are that it is indeed inexpensive and produces lower recoil. We offer rifle ammo in a number of calibers including 223 REMINGTON, 30 CARBINE, 300 WIN MAG, 307 WIN, 308 WIN, 375 WINCHESTER, 5.45 X 39MM, 7X64MM and more. With the best loads, my Remington Model 700 is one-hole accurate. The Remington Model 600 Magnum rifle, along with the cartridge it birthed, was just such a product. Ill bet its been awhile since those cartridges have been seen in a hunting camp. vs. .458 Lott7mm Rem. Are you just itching to take a rifle chambered in .35 Remington on a hunt? Winchester action. Particularlywhen used in a high quality rifle, the .35 Remington is capable of pretty darn good accuracy and Ive shot many nice groups with an off the shelfRemington Model 81. Mag. was also the only cartridge of that original Remington family that was based on a different parent case. Because the Ruger #1 will use pointed bullets, there are more suitable in .35 caliber than .348. For me, that puts it over the top. figure of .256 versus the 200-grain .358s S.D. Like most of our Caliber Battles, the choice here is between a lighter bullet going faster (the .30-30) and a heavier bullet going slower (the .35 Rem.). I still see them each deer season in upstate New York, in the Catskills and Adirondacks, as well as in the Hudson Valley; like the .30-30 Winchester, the .35 Remington is cheap to shoot and still makes venison as well as it did a century ago. Keep in mind that most hunting ammunition currently sells for an average of $28 to $32 per box. In the years since, the .35 Rem. This stumpy little cartridge was introduced to the hunting public in 1908 and is the only surviving member of the early class of Remington rimless cartridges. cartridge Winchester chambered in the Model 1894. Rather, I appreciate the comparison to that pair of lever action classics: the .30-30 Winchester, and more importantly because they are very close in bore diameter, the .35 Remington. It is probably best restricted to use on animals of not more than about 50 pounds live weight, such as small predators. The .35 Rem. Introduced in 1906, it was originally chambered for the Remington Model 8 semi-automatic rifle in 1908. At ranges less than 100 yards, likewhen hunting whitetail deeror black bear in thick cover,the cartridge excels and is absolutely deadly on big game. has been offered in just about every rifle action type ever conceived and a few handguns. Classic lever-action deer rifles are undoubtedly cool. These advertisements typically featured hunters fearlessly facing down wolves and grizzly bears with their trusty Remington Auto-Loading Rifle chambered in the potent .35 Remington cartridge. Also H&R 1871, Inc., offered single-shot rifles in .35 Whelen from 1994 to 1996. The .35 Remington was releasedas one of a quartet of rimless cartridges from Remingtonin 1906; it is a rimless affair designed for their Model 8 autoloading rifle. Mag. usually costs closer to $45 for a box. Along with the rifle, they introduced four new rimless cartridges: the .25 Remington, the .30 Remington, the .32 Remington, and the .35 Remington. I double lunged a buck with a 225gr. We sell ammunition by the box and bulk ammo in case quantities. Area Code: 724 . Both come in light, handy rifles that are a pleasure to carry in the forested mountains and wooded areas where these guns shine. Barnes has a Vor-TX load with a 180-grain TSX bullet and a muzzle velocity of 2900 f.p.s. Join F&S+ to read exclusive stories by your favorite writers. Dont be fooled by its somewhat anemic looking ballistics on paper when compared to newer cartridges sporting fancy pointed tips and blazing fast velocities. For a more detailed discussion on .35 Remington hunting ammunition, read this article: Best .35 Remington Ammo For Hunting Deer, Bear & Other Big Game. The origins of the .35 Whelen are controversial even today. was included in that party is a mystery, as it had no Winchester counterpart. Anything about this rifle they must have not manufactured very many hunters tell me it is rare to see the cartridge in this caliber from a Remington model 600 I do like this rifle it is very accurate and fun to shoot. and the head diameter is .380". The most popular cartridges for hunting and even target shooting begin and end with the thirties. With the traditional loads, the .30-30 will drive its 150- and 170-grain bullets to a muzzle velocity of 2400 and 2250 fps respectively, while the .35 Remington launches its 180- and 200-grain bullets at 2100 and 2080 fps. The 600 Magnum suffered from a barrel that was too short at 18 inches. can drive the same weight bullet a bit faster. Join F&S+ to read exclusive stories by your favorite writers. For a while Savage chambered it in the Model 99, and I am still looking for one I can afford. Long and short if it is under 150 yards there's very little difference in killing power between the 35 Rem and 308 Win. Winchester and Hornady both offer 200-grain loads at 2475 f.p.s. But it offers only 100fps more with a 200 gr. with 1,400 ft.-lbs. Size On Wednesday, the Center for Biological Diversity (CBD) sent a notice of intent to sue to the U.S. Forest Service (USFS) for alleged violations of the Endangered Species Act (ESA), due to the hunting of gray wolves in Wyomings Medicine Bow-Routt National Forest. I give the edge to the apparently timeless .30-30 Winchester for the availability alone; there are dozens of factory loads to choose from, and being .30-caliber is never a bad thing. The long accepted story was that James V. Howe developed the cartridge in 1922 and named it in honor of his friend, gunwriter Col. Townsend Whelen. Naturally, this resulted in performance compromises and the Today, most major manufacturers offer multiple actions chambered in .30-30. East, west, north, or south, the .30/30 is the most popular big game hunting cartridge for the lever-action rifle. Traditionally, the tubular magazines of the popular lever-rifles restricted the cartridges to using round or flat-point bullets, to avoid the possibility of magazine detonation, should a pointed spitzer bullet hit the primer of the cartridge ahead of it in the magazine. The .35 Remington has proven itself for almost a century as a reliable short-range woods cartridge for medium-sized game such as deer and black bear. The heavy, slow moving bullets deliver bone crushing power and do not produce large amounts of ruined, blood shot meat that high velocity cartridges do. As of 2017, Hawk bullets still makes .351 jacketed expanding bullets with jackets of appropriate thickness.[7]. Jacketed bullet diameter is .351", not Ruger briefly chambered the M77 rifle in .35 Whelen. Fusion Ammo has a 200-grain with a muzzle velocity of 2800 f.p.s. From 100 yards it was tracked with 1861 foot-pounds of awesome power. Using the lighter .358-inch diameter bullets weighing 150 to 200 grains, the .35 Remington gave enough power to cleanly take a deer, bear or similar sized animals, without pounding the shooters shoulder to jelly. [2], While a few gun writers in the 1960s criticized the .351 SL for being inadequate as a deer hunting round, and the round's power has sometimes been compared to a .357 Magnum carbine load, the .351 SL's killing power falls somewhere between the .30-30 Winchester and the .35 Remington. Winchester offered .351 WSL factory loads loaded with 180 grain jacketed soft point (JSP), round nose bullets. It was not designed for a lever-action rifle. 223 Remington 243 Win 300 AAC Blackout 300 Win Mag 45-70 5.56x45mm NATO 6.5mm Creedmoor 7.62x39mm View All Calibers Rimfire Ammo 17 . I own several rifles in this cartridge and all my .35 Whelen rifles are accurate. The 243 Winchester has a longer overall length and uses a longer case length than the 223 Remington. Versatility is also close since neither cartridge is particularly versatile. All rights reserved. So, in recognition of both the strengths and weaknesses of the cartridge, the .35 Remington gained a good reputation among American huntersseeking an effective woods cartridge for pursuing game in areas where shots inside 100 yards were the norm. can only be had in Federals traditional, lead-core Power-Shok line. and .32 Rem. Sadly, I cant find a single major gunmaker chambering this cartridge today. On those gray, moody November days when I am feeling blue I take my Remington Model 141 pump-action rifle in .35 Rem. Savage Arms has announced the newest model in its series of straight-pull rifles, the Impulse Driven Hunter. Shaw rifles 24-inch barrel. as a way to boost the power of the Model 94 lever-action rifle. The '06 has been the big-game king forever. Whitetail hunting strategies for the next generation. Its said that the French used it in World War I, but it probably didnt see much action. .351 cartridge enjoyed a rather long production life. This is partly due to the wide availability of ammo and partly due to the cartridges extended reach. Before we get started, I have an administrative note:Some of the links below are affiliate links. Thats what I did. Something to think about if you really want a .348 Winchester based cartridge. In most factory loads, the .30-30 flies faster and employs more devastating bullets. By contrast, the .35 Rem. The .35 Win., .35 Newton and .350 Griffin & Howe Mag. That guns modern military counterpart, the 5.56 NATO, has been in continuous use by militaries around the world since the early 1960s. Remington marketed the cartridgeas a superior alternative to another extremely popular cartridge that excelled under those same circumstances: the venerable .30-30 Winchester. I remember in Washington in the early 70s my older brother pulled up in his truck with the biggest elk Id ever seen. However, they are high pressure loads and should only be used in modern firearms, such as the Marlin 336, that are in good condition. The .35 Rem., by contrast, can be much more difficult to find. Sure, we experiment a bit with other bore sizes, but in the end it always comes back to the .30 caliber. The .35 Remington was extremely effective in that role. In addition to the semi-auto Remington Model 8 and 81, Remington also produced the Model 14 pump-action rifle chambered in the cartridge. from my E.R. Theyre real deal hunting rifles honored and appreciated by those who hunt with their feet as opposed to feet-per-second. Campfire Ranger. When chambered for cartridges such as the .243 Win., 6 mm Rem., .308 Win. Gun guys recognize the potential in the .358. During the spring conservation order, you can hunt with outfitters from Arkansas to Saskatchewan. Winchester sold both soft point and FMJ ammunition for the .351 SL cartridge over the years. Semi-automatic and striker-fired, the P320-XTEN is extremely accurate, easy to shoot even with powerful 10mm loads and holds 15-plus-one rounds. Here's the inside story of what they found and how they're rebuilding an industry giant. Its thought to be the rifle legendary stock detective Tom Horn used for his assassinations, and African professional hunter Wally Johnson even used a .30/30 with success on lions. But trajectory is a foolish way to compare cartridges typically used at distances inside 150 yards. Hornadys LEVERevolution pushes the performance up a notch with a 200-grain pointed bullet at 2225 f.p.s. was simply a .308 Win. Remington continues to offer factory ammo, and its 200-grain factory load has a muzzle velocity of 2675 f.p.s., while the 250-grain loads muzzle velocity is 2400 f.p.s. In the lever-action Marlin Model 336, the cartridge became a favorite of eastern deer and bear hunters, giving plenty of knockdown power in a compact and affordable package. These strengths along with the Marlin 336 ease of carry (foot or horseback) and its open iron sights make it possibly the best bear protection firearm out there. Its cheap, easy to shoot, and most importantly, effective on whitetail in close quarters. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, Reloading Centerfire Ammunition: Tips For Getting Started, Shooting and Loading the 6.8x43 mm Rem. At this time, Henry and Marlin are the only two companies Im aware of that produce new rifles in the cartridge. It never has been and never will be a good long range cartridge, but if anything,modern loadings using high quality bullets have further improved the performance of the .35 Remington on big game at short to moderate range. According to the 45th Edition of the Lyman Read on for his take on this Thai-inspired fusion dish. Shaw will make a rifle, as will any other custom, or semi-custom, riflemaker. remains in production. When hunters there really need to make a rapid shot and anchor their game quickly, they can rely on a Marlin 336 chambered in .35 Remington. Both of these .35 Remington ammo choices offer slight improvements over typical factory loads. Of the four rifle cartridges introduced with the Remington Model 8, the .35 Remington was by far the most popular and is the only one still in production. WINCHESTER model 1905 in 35 Cal. Mag..404 Jeffery vs. .416 Rigby.243 Winchester vs. 6mm Creedmoor.300 PRC vs. .300 Win. Note: A longer version of this article can be found on the Rifle Cartridge Page. Like any inquisitive young man, I delved into the history and nostalgia of the .30 WCF, or .30-30, and the many names it has carried, and was honored to take my first deera whitetail doewith the same cartridge that my father took his. More importantly, everything it makes has the performance to match. Back in 1983 Winchester introduced the .356 Win. to achieve its potential. The .243 Win. Even though it does not sport the sexy pointed bullets and high velocities of some of the more popular cartridges on the market today, the .35 Remington still maintains a healthy following among American hunters. Though a 150-grain spire point load was offered for a whilespecifically for the old magazine-fed Model 8sthe standard load has long been a 200-grain round nose bullet. hits a little harder, but only clocks in at 13 ft.-lbs. Henry Repeating Arms currently manufactures a model in .35 Remington as well. And the Winner Is They have almost all abandoned the cartridge. [5] Most ammunition available today for the .351 SL is produced by a few boutique manufacturers, often using either cast lead bullets or copper-plated bullets or, occasionally, .358 jacketed bullets resized to .351 or .352 caliber. Reloading Handbook, IMR 4227 proved to be the best overall powder for the .351 WSL. The .35 Remington uses the 180- and 200-grain .358caliber bullets, and while light-for-caliber, they are effective at the ranges a .35 Remington is used, which is usually inside of 150 yards. The Remington Model 673 Guide Rifle was chambered in .350 Rem. Instead, it was first chambered in Remingtons Model 8 auto-loading rifle. The ability to smack the snot out of big game animals like black bear and wily old whitetail bucks is what really matters. up to 0.358 inches and dubbed it the poor mans magnum.. In particular, the .35 Remington offers a marked advantage over the .30-30 Winchester when hunting very large, tough, and/or dangerous game like moose and grizzly bear. Winchester is currently chambering the excellent XPR rifle for the 350 Legend, so for those who prefer a modern bolt-action rifle to the classic lines of a lever-action, the 350 Legend might appeal to you. Re: 35 Remington vs. 358 Winchester. bullet than the .35 Remington. Winchester offered .351 WSL factory loads loaded with 180 .351 WSL is not nearly as powerful as the .35 Remington cartridge offered in the Henry Repeating Arms recently presented a $25,000 check a nonprofit organization that provides support and programs for the families and co-workers of firefighters killed in the line of duty. Mag. The rim diameter is .407" and the head diameter is .380". Marlin offers the Model 336 in both .30-30 and .35 Rem., but its unclear whether Ruger (which recently purchased Marlin) will continue the line. projectiles, and by designing 350 Legend to. It was a gift from my father for my 15th birthday, andat least to the young man who received itmarked a passage into manhood. Whether you're shooting a break-action, pump-action, or semiautomatic, Sign up for the Field & Stream newsletter and get the latest intelligence straight to your inbox. | Which is the more useful cartridge? Sierra Game King from my .35 Whelen, he ran 30-40yds . It arrived with three other cartridges designed to compete with Winchesters popular lever-action lineup. The .35 Remington uses the 180- and 200-grain .358caliber bullets, and while light-for-caliber, they are effective at the ranges a .35 Remington is used, which is usually inside of 150 yards. Campfire Ranger. vs. .300 WSM.223 Remington vs. .22-250 Remington. 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