Shaun of @shaun_vids on Twitter said recently in response to another girl's hate storm against her that mirrors the exact same patterns as Mamamoo's, If someone does something worthy of criticism, and that criticism is then directly delivered thousands of times by different people (a section of whom will go much too far and be genuinely abusive), it all just merges into abuse in the perception of the one being criticised.. Mamamoo - Solar. The last thing repeatedly referenced against Hwasa is the fact that she wore a durag on Queendom during Mamamoos Good Luck performance. Goodnight. They never went into these situations with the intent of hurting or offending anyone. asked one user while another tweet read, "Dark skin or brown skin men? I know Ive answered questions on things like racism, colorism, cultural appropriation, etc. hitType: 'event', The Official MAMAMOO 18+ Thread - The Bar (18+) - OneHallyu Hello everyone, in honor of MAMAMOOs super awesome comeback for their sassy title track, Um Ah Oh Yeh, from their Pinky Funky mini album, I have decided to create a 18+ thread for the sexy ladies of MAMAMOO. Korean girl group Mamamoo apologized Saturday after a video clip aired at their concert that featured the quartet in blackface. The ring around her mouth: Now a ring around someones mouth was something drawn back in the days of blackface to emphasize big lips. I really dislike fat girls. Some people are a bit skeptic of whether or not I actually like Super Junior, which I can understand, but I would like to clarify that I do. I made an exo masterpost and since then Ive had a lot of messages from people telling me that they no longer feel that they can bias Chanyeol or Baekhyun, which is their own personal decision, and something that they chose based on information I provided. And it appears they still hold her accountable for it, largely owing to past instances of appropriation, such as wearing a durag. She gets loads of comments drenched in colourism and misogyny about her genitals and looks its truly vomit worth. Thats not fair to them at all and makes absolutely no sense. problematickpop:. So trend they did. Like everyone says here, it will never excuse their actions but if we can see them grow and learn from their mistakes I'll always be there to support them. Its kinda iffy, and as a trans & queer person it definitely rubs me the wrong way :-//. A subreddit for the four member kpop group, MAMAMOO! "Hey remember dressing up in blackface with the rest of Mamamoo," read one tweet. Im aware people can be incredibly childish when it comes to offensive stuff in kpop, almost like its some game, like, there are actual people who look forward to exos next fuckup as though its not something that deeply upsets people. eventAction: 'render' Villain. It genuinely makes me sad that the kpop community hasn't changed since I left it in 2014 which is why I'm so reluctant to jump back into it and only really here to support MAMAMOO. I'm pretty sure that a lot of people have heard of the blackface scandal. The sun will always shine for us. In the boy groups section, there are fans defending them for everything and even saying things like, "Come back when ___(male idols)__ abuse people, then we'll talk about them being 'problematic'." Someone might think its petty or ridiculous but theres no reason for people to put up with something offensive if they dont want to. Kim Yong-sun (Korean: , born February 21, 1991), better known by the stage name Solar (Korean: ), is a South Korean singer, songwriter and actress signed under RBW.She is the leader and main vocalist of girl group Mamamoo and its sub-unit Mamamoo+. but this stuff isnt discussed when it comes to suju - people take anything and make it problematic for members who havent done things like kangin, shindong, leeteuk, and yesung, and then just throw it around to defend their favorites. What are your thoughts? ourbridgeisforever:. Another thing is my mental health. Mamamoo is a 4 member girl group under Rainbow Bridge World whose members are Solar, Moonbyul, Wheein and Hwasa and they made their debut on 19th June 2014. }); there is nothing wrong with heechul thinking kris leaving exo was disrespectful - its his opinion, its not problematic. I promise you it wasnt a group thing. They were ignorant and uneducated at the time. eventAction: 'click_ads' Joined: May 2022. Im ironically bad at dealing with conflict, which might make some people question why I started this blog (it was actually an accident, long story), but Ive tried not to let it affect my running of this blog. TWICE - jihyo: wore a native american costume + introduced herself as ''indian jihyo . Contents 1 History 1.1 Pre-debut 1.2 2014: Debut with Hello, and Piano Man 1.3 2015: Pink Funky 1.4 2016: Melting, MOOSICAL and Memory 1.5 2017: MOOSICAL Curtain Call and Purple And yes I did make an exo masterpost, heres a link. When you choose to spend that privilege constantly mocking and harassing people online, well, karma's going to come back to you, in some form or another. }); eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), Ngl I let out a couples laughs tho. So for antis to use that insecurity and exploit it daily, calling her everything from E.T. to a 'smelly homeless person' to having the figure of a brick, says everything about themselves and nothing about her. Mamamoo isn't even the first K-Pop group or artist to don blackface in 2012, Big Bang's G-Dragon (who have been called the "biggest band in Asia") posted a horrific photo that many believed was. Ive said it before and Ill say it again, that post wasnt made with the intent of hurting Super Junior or their fans, nor was it made for the purpose of bashing Super Junior. }); gads_event = event; pic.twitter.com/d4GXcv4AIt, As more fans attempted to clear the hashtag and ask for others to be kind and consider the mental health of idols like Hwasa, some couldn't help but laugh at the questions being asked. okay so before i start this list, i just wanna clarify: i am an exo stan. I dont really want this published but Im Korean and I just watched the SISTAR video and the translations are pretty accurate, Hyorin was trying to say how bora has all black fashion and her hair and black complexion adds on to it, and I felt that too (soyu was trying to suggest that hyorin had darker skin than bora so hyorin shouldnt talk about anyone elses skin color) so hyorin was like yeah but at least I dont wear black clothes like bora! kpop problematic carrd! Dark smudges of makeup were put on her face to represent dirt that the beggar character had on him, and people accused her of doing blackface for it, even though she was portraying a Korean character, and not someone of African descent. So many public figures coming out and vouching for Mamamoos talent and success only continues to prove their worth and value to the world. The photos are problematic as they were taken in 2008 when Chorong was in high school and underage at 17 years old. We are one of the worlds fastest growing Our team is real men., Actually, we are all men, real men ah! They make a difference. Im not trying to run away from anything, if you have issues with any of the things I say or do (because I am privileged in certain aspects) please dont feel afraid to bring them up! Yes, I should have checked the links. hitType: 'event', It is common in America to wear red puffy wigs as the stereotype of a clown, however it is not as common in South Korea, which is why Hwasa wore braids as the hair to her outfit. The environment that they grew up in is much different than ours; they're surrounded by customs and norms from their own society and culture. }); Maybe ive just checked really bad websites. #askhwasa pic.twitter.com/rqPYTIMaEL, And from there, the jokes just continued, "Biggie or Tupac?" Mamamoo's Hwasa has come under fire more than once after accusations of racism and cultural appropriation. } It has become commonplace to trash Mamamoo and Hwasa in particular, just another meme or joke to let slide. Meanwhile for girl groups it's just full of hate comments even if they did not do as many or as severe problematic things as boy groups. Mamamoo member Hwasa is one of the most compelling female idols. I think people need to realize that Asia is still inside a bit of a bubble when it comes to what is appropriate regarding race and cultures. actually dont feel like fighting that person on their response, so im just letting it go. Refresh the page,. While Mamamoo being popular with the public is widely known, many are unaware of just how many actors, idols, and senior producers they have won over with their authentic shows and cheery personalities. I love mamamoo their song i miss you is what got me into them as that song made me really sad but their songs hit different and Moonbyul is such a tomboy and i love her, I love how Moonbyul dominates this poll lmao, Moonbyul isnt even my bias anymore but I cant switch my vote so yep go dominate girl. (I read your tags) I hope you dont mind me reblogging this, If you do please just tell me and Ill delete it. This page was loaded Sep 23rd 2021, 9:34 pm GMT. I dont think people should defend what others do/say, regardless of how long ago it was, but I do think people should look at stuff in context and use a degree of common sense. Press J to jump to the feed. Her wig: Now I can understand how it can be seen as cultural appropriation. if he simply stated that he thought they were gay/trans, then there isnt a problem because theres nothing wrong with a person being gay/trans. Hwasa trolled for past racism as #AskHwasa trends, Internet asks which ethnicity she will 'offend' next. 21 Feb 2023, 07:29 PM. I suffer from lots of different mental health problems (I dont want to go too into detail but I have ADHD and also struggle with BPD, bipolar + other issues) and this blog really does not help. eventAction: 'click_image_ads' yeah Id probably classify myself as a pacifist, thought I understand the use of violence in self defence or sports that require violence (MMA, boxing, etc.). I recently fell in love with these girls again after I took a break from kpop. Im not really sure what else to say, if anyone wants to talk to me about it, thats fine. For example, Ryeowook is another suju member I really like, and I dont agree with him using a picture of Yesung in blackface as his twitter icon whatsoever, I think it was incredibly offensive and insensitive and ignorant, but its not something that has caused me to dislike him. I think this is one thing that remains somewhat undecided but considering Baekhyuns track record, I wouldnt put it past him tbh. Compare this to some other idol groups with rabid fanbases, any controversy and they're ready to defend their idols to the point of issuing death threats to the critiques. The thing is, it is not just another joke. cc @sexeyXR @chsjason @Mata10. (Also just a little side note, I know people arent aware and I havent specified it on this blog, but please dont refer to me with she/her pronouns! Discover short videos related to mamamoo being problematic on TikTok. It was laughable because a writer had a compilation of problematic things that idol groups did and you can very clearly see the double-standards people have for boy groups and girl groups (even the writer herself). So those are the most controversial things talked about that Mamamoo has done. } Posts: 310. I included links to everything that was on the list (some of which had been deleted - another thing I messed up on big time) and with certain things, I did include a bit of extra information (e.g. My hiatus is indefinite, but its unlikely Ill be running it again any time soon. ", HELP THE QUESTIONS FOR #AskHwasa I CANT pic.twitter.com/hfqIr5fn9w, THE TWEETS UNDER THIS HASHTAG ARE RUTHLESS AHAJAKXH #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/gEpnibGF9J, the gates of heaven are not opening for ANY of yall #AskHwasa, Baby Mia Jade Riley: Parents Lani and Tom Riley speak out after dog attack killed their 5-week-old infant, 'We have lots to reveal': Madeleine McCann lookalike Julia Wandelt posts footage of meeting with PI probing claims, Kyle Sambrook: Hiker falls 100ft to death while carrying his dog in one hand through 'appalling' weather, Killer mom Lindsay Clancy was suffering from drug withdrawal and had 'worst side effects,' says friend, Bruce Willis's mom Marlene 'not sure if her son still recognizes her' as 'aggressiveness' creeps in. }); Wore a headscarf in a similar way to a hijab in, When a male fan said Saranghae (I love you) to him, he responded by going, Made the picture of Yesung in blackface his, Def Conn was talking about a trade he did with an African American regarding some Micheal Jordan shoes in which Kyuhyun retorted, Said that Kais defining feature was that his, Then proceeded to say Taos face color is dark because its green at 23:11 of the same, Assigned gummy bears to Exo-K members and, In the same interview, Kai sort of called him out on his colorism/shadism and Chanyeol said , Used a caricature app to make the Exo members and created, When Xiumin chose him as first place after being asked which exo member hed date if he were a girl, he saidIt feels pretty good to be in first place, but it is first place from the viewpoint of a male but then said a few seconds laterThis first place feels a little its a good thing! You need to Register or Login to view the content. 1,891 Rep. 1 Year of Service. I don't think anything they have done has been malicious, however it was a product of maybe not being knowledgeable of what may be considered offensive to others. As I am not muslim (and Im not sure if you are or not) I feel as though its not really up for me to say whether or not its offensive ora reach. Whew, Im sorry for the long post haha. RBW then said they would work to educate themselves more on cultural sensitivity and the struggles that the black community and various other POC communities have undergone and continue to go through. ga('ads.send', { Another thing referenced against Hwasa is the occasion she dressed up as a clown. I only made the post because Ive personally received asks about whether or not there is a Super Junior master post and whether specific members have done anything, and thought itd be easy to compile a list, seeing as thats sorta what this blog is for. also please read this before trying to contact me about any of this. But in this case it was obviously red, and drawn the way a clown would wear it. I dont properly feel as though I can talk about in depth because I have limited knowledge (which I probably should have specified in the post) but I didnt just pull it out of my ass, I included it because Id seen people get offended by it (though predominantly by Gain). This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. The other day it was revealed that two major idols were dating, and before I had even seen the news article, I was in a Mamamoo fan group-chat, and someone sent out the link of the dating news with their comment under being, be on high alert for hwasas tags. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), #1. I cant undo posting it, but I regret it and Im really, genuinely sorry for spreading incorrect information and for any of the fans I upset. The thing to note here is that Hwasa is not fluent in English. Im going to leave this blog up so people can still refer to some of the posts and look through the tags. I found out that they did blackface which is disgusting and heartbreaking cause I really liked them so I stewed on it for a few days and looked again and found that they had apologised that same day 2x and that they also apologised in person the next day concert. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), As much as I have enjoyed running this blog, there are lots of aspects of it which have purely been a source of anxiety and distress for me. The group officially debuted with their single "Mr. Ambiguous" on June 18, 2014. I feel like this sounds insincere but its not, I promise, I wish I had gone about it very differently. The Radish Farm (Mamamoo Thread) This is going to be safe space for everyone who wants to talk about Mamamoo. No it doesnt excuse what theyve said, but its likely that they have changed, which is something everybody does and it should be embraced. It's really difficult to see the hate towards these girls when I see how hard they had to struggle to climb up the ladder when they came from such a small company but I do believe they'll prevail and work hard to improve themselves as they've always been doing since 2014 . I have no reason not to trust the 2 Korean-speaking people whove come forward and told me it isnt a mistranslation? the Eunhyuk WGM thing being scripted). If you think ive missed anything please send me a message but dont forget to try to include a source! Its quite a big responsibility looking after this blog and Im not sure my wellbeing can take that on top of my workload and personal problems. hitType: 'event', Good night @noobmaster89 and solar cult. MEAWW is an initialism for Media Entertainment Arts WorldWide. The song itself did not originally contain the word, but the lyrics Hwasa was using were taken off the Melon website, which did. And please send me a link when you upload the video, Id be interested in seeing your translation. I did do that on my exo masterpost, but I also spent a lot more time and thought on that post as well. Normal version comes with 1 random photocard out of 4. Mamamoo is not the most problematic group ever I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people (so being black) I decided to some research to find out. okay so somebody sent me a link to the video (thank you btw!) Korean girl group Mamamoo apologized Saturday after a video clip aired at their concert that featured the quartet in blackface. Please put a * at the end of the message if you don't want it published. This resulted in people calling her out as dressing like a black stereotype, and complaining that she was even wearing blackface again, despite the fact that she had no heavily darker makeup on, and was simply rocking her naturally darker skin. A lot seem to be taken out of context and exaggerated. I dont know if youre Korean or not (your blog doesnt say) but if you arent, I consider everything youve said invalid information. This thread can't even agree on what Mamamoo did or did not do and yet y'all want to drag them into Blackpink's problematic sh*t to divert the attention, y'all are a damn mess. Yes theres a chance it was scripted (something I didnt include originally but will add) but since we arent sure, I included it anyway. The point is to provide information about things which could be perceived as offensive so that fans can decide for themselves whether or not they feel comfortable continuing to support the idols. ", #AskHwasa biggie or tupac? Others, despite agreeing that Hwasa was at fault, thought the questions were taking it too far. Sorry this got a bit long but I appreciate you responding. From my own judgement, the members seem like good, genuine people. Honestly, I would want the person that I love to be more pretty or more handsome., Culturally appropriated a Native American headdress. Ive seen a lot of people (and even previously been them sometimes) throwing around the Siwon thing to say hes wildly homophobic, for example, when it turned out to be heavily unreliable and probably false. With the Henry thing, I also understand where youre coming from. A lot of my followers have been a huge help and Ive learned a lot myself. eventAction: 'view' pg.acq.push(function() { 1,068. reporters on a platform technologically tailored to meet the needs of the modern reader. Why? I did include apologies though, such as Shindongs, Kangins and Zhoumis. Non fans for all the questions, suggestions, reviews, anything. okay so people seemed to find my exo masterpost pretty helpful and Im very aware that suju arent exactly the least offensive group around, so (since the YFIP one isnt very up-to-date) I thought Id make a super junior masterpost since Im a suju fan and I want to provide helpful resources for other fans. The K-POP idol's vocal talent is considered one of the best in the industry and yet, she continues to receive a great amount of . For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. ", The link includes the statements released on the group's behalf, most notably, their own apologies for their use of blackface which was released within four hours of the video going out. One user shared, "HELP THE QUESTIONS FOR #AskHwasa I CANT," along with a screenshot of some of their favorites, another said, "THE TWEETS UNDER THIS HASHTAG ARE RUTHLESS AHAJAKXH," and one joked, "The gates of heaven are not opening for ANY of yall. It's even harder these days.. anything can be taken out of context for example, they're banning "Baby It's Cold Outside" on the radio because some people feel the lyrics suggest date rape what a load of BS. Daily persecution? You dont owe them anything in the lines of forgiveness, especially if you were one of the people they personally hurt with their past actions. I feel like stepping back will give me more time to learn and expand my horizons and less time to speak on topics I dont actually know much about. My anxiety and paranoia are bad enough as it is but they shoot up every time I post on here, leaving me feeling sick when I cant check my inbox (or when I have lots of messages) and paranoid that everybody hates me/this blog. I'm sure I'm still unlearning a lot of things today. #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/h0oPUHVyku, Some, naturally, came to Hwasa's defense, pointing out that her, the rest of Mamamoo, as well as their label Rainbowbridge World (RBW), have all apologized or at the very least provided an explanation for their actions in the past. You need to Register or Login to view the content Explore the latest videos from hashtags: #mamamooproblematic, #mamamooegotistic, #mamaproblematica, # . To be honest, I wish Id made the suju post more like the exo one, because the exo one included a lot of the stuff people are criticising me for leaving out of this one. Group. The following 32 users Like TheSexyTwiMan's post: People @Pr0blematicIdol follows or mentioned can reply Problematic Idols @Pr0blematicIdol Jan 3, 2021 Replying to @Pr0blematicIdol Hwasa is an idol who isn't afraid to be herself. All this being said, Mamamoo is truly know, not as huge award/reality show winners, but as an idol group of the people. Because of MISTAKES. I actually really appreciate people messaging me about stuff and talking it through with me, especially because I actually really dislike conflict (makes me wonder why I started this blog really haha). But this often means the backlash is swift and severe anytime she puts out new content. We hope that you will help to educate us on these and other issues so that we can become better people and better artists.. } hitType: 'event', MAMAMOO debuted on June 18, 2014, along with their single "Mr. Ambiguous." MAMAMOO was commended along with their first single by the critics as one of the best K-pop debut group in 2014. The video, Id be interested in seeing your translation a source is. Record, I promise, I would want the person that I mamamoo problematic thread to be safe space for who. 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